As I was Saying in Berlin …

This conversation, in an earlier version, opened the ‘Framing Lives’ conference held in July 2012 at the Australian National University in Canberra. Here the writer and academic, Antjie Krog, and the philosopher and academic, Paul Patton, continue the conversations they started in Berlin in 2007 (these were published in Krog's non-fiction text, Begging to Be Black, 2009). In this reprised dialogue, Krog and Patton reflect both on the Berlin conversations and the ensuing textual interactions; and Patton invites Krog to talk about some of the book's most important ideas (Eds.)